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	<title>Comments on: Ecclestone Conceeds: Ferrari Get More Money &amp; General Help</title>
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		<title>By: Jackie Stewart Slams Bernie Ecclestone &#187; BlogF1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie Stewart Slams Bernie Ecclestone &#187; BlogF1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] month Ferrari president Luca Di Montezemolo attacked Ecclestone saying that the way the revenues are distributed needs looking at again, which in turn caused [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pink Peril</title>
		<link>http://blogf1.co.uk/2008/12/21/ecclestone-conceeds-ferrari-get-more-money-general-help/comment-page-1/#comment-69490</link>
		<dc:creator>Pink Peril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven Roy, thats *exactly* why I don&#039;t want Fernando in a Ferrari !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven Roy, thats *exactly* why I don&#8217;t want Fernando in a Ferrari !</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ferrari have had a financial advantage for several decades now.  They get paid a fee becuase of their historica importance.  Which is a joke when you consider tha for most of their history they were outperformed by many other teams.

I am a firm believer that all competitors in any sport have to be treated and seen to be treated equally.  How can we trust the FIA disciplinary system to treat teams equally when one team is paid more thna the others, when one team&#039;s involvement is valued more than the others and when there are secret agreements with one team and not the others.  When that team is consistently the beneficiary of unique disciplinary findings even the Ferrari fans can&#039;t believe that is fair.

The corollary of course is that as a result of the crooked disciplinary proceedings Ferrari adds to its legend further increasing its &#039;historical value&#039;.

At least now that all this is in the open we can now know for certain what Alan Donnelly&#039;s job is.  He is Max&#039;s representative in the stewards&#039; room to make sure that Ferrari&#039;s historical value is taken into consideration.  So when Massa was given a fine rather than the customary drive through at Valencia it was because F1 is fixed in Ferrari&#039;s favour.  When Massa was awarded the win in Spa it was because F1 is fixed in Ferrari&#039;s favour.  When Ferrari was allowed to race and win in Melbourne in 2007 with a car that they knew was illegal it was because F1 is fixed in Ferrari&#039;s favour.

I guess now that this is out in the open any driver who wins a championship in a Ferrari should have an asterisk after his name because it is at best dubious.  Any driver who wins a championship in anything other than a Ferrari know he deserves that championship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferrari have had a financial advantage for several decades now.  They get paid a fee becuase of their historica importance.  Which is a joke when you consider tha for most of their history they were outperformed by many other teams.</p>
<p>I am a firm believer that all competitors in any sport have to be treated and seen to be treated equally.  How can we trust the FIA disciplinary system to treat teams equally when one team is paid more thna the others, when one team&#8217;s involvement is valued more than the others and when there are secret agreements with one team and not the others.  When that team is consistently the beneficiary of unique disciplinary findings even the Ferrari fans can&#8217;t believe that is fair.</p>
<p>The corollary of course is that as a result of the crooked disciplinary proceedings Ferrari adds to its legend further increasing its &#8216;historical value&#8217;.</p>
<p>At least now that all this is in the open we can now know for certain what Alan Donnelly&#8217;s job is.  He is Max&#8217;s representative in the stewards&#8217; room to make sure that Ferrari&#8217;s historical value is taken into consideration.  So when Massa was given a fine rather than the customary drive through at Valencia it was because F1 is fixed in Ferrari&#8217;s favour.  When Massa was awarded the win in Spa it was because F1 is fixed in Ferrari&#8217;s favour.  When Ferrari was allowed to race and win in Melbourne in 2007 with a car that they knew was illegal it was because F1 is fixed in Ferrari&#8217;s favour.</p>
<p>I guess now that this is out in the open any driver who wins a championship in a Ferrari should have an asterisk after his name because it is at best dubious.  Any driver who wins a championship in anything other than a Ferrari know he deserves that championship.</p>
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		<title>By: Alianora La Canta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alianora La Canta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The $80m-per-year is time-sensitive, in that it is a deal starting in 2005 and ending in 2012 or when a new Concorde Agreement overriding it is agreed, whichever comes first.

What I can see happening is the teams could use this as an excuse to force Bernie and the FIA to agree a new Concorde Agreement. They may well scream at Ferrari for taking so much money, but they will also closely scrutinise the CVC&#039;s finances and demand more money from them. Since both can be done in the same contract negotiation, I can see the next few months being politically noisy (but then what month isn&#039;t in the world of F1?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The $80m-per-year is time-sensitive, in that it is a deal starting in 2005 and ending in 2012 or when a new Concorde Agreement overriding it is agreed, whichever comes first.</p>
<p>What I can see happening is the teams could use this as an excuse to force Bernie and the FIA to agree a new Concorde Agreement. They may well scream at Ferrari for taking so much money, but they will also closely scrutinise the CVC&#8217;s finances and demand more money from them. Since both can be done in the same contract negotiation, I can see the next few months being politically noisy (but then what month isn&#8217;t in the world of F1?)</p>
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		<title>By: Pink Peril</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pink Peril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think FOTA has got Bernie rattled. He prolly expected his usual &#039;divide and conquer&#039; tactics to have worked by now, and things to be progressing on his terms as per usual.

Good on them for standing up to him. Finally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think FOTA has got Bernie rattled. He prolly expected his usual &#8216;divide and conquer&#8217; tactics to have worked by now, and things to be progressing on his terms as per usual.</p>
<p>Good on them for standing up to him. Finally.</p>
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