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	<title>Comments on: Sebastien Bourdais Handed 25s Penalty</title>
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		<title>By: Charlie Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupid, rediculous, thick, pathetic, dumb ....

Bourdais - being penalised is &lt;em&gt;wrong&lt;/em&gt;, he was on the racing line and Massa crossed white line!  Another example of the Ferrari Improvement Appreciation.

Hamilton, well too many examples to bother mentioning on this one, not least Massa at Turkey (wasn't it) when it was called a brilliant overtaking maneuverer, what is the difference!

Massa, well obviously history (Senna / Prost, Hill / Schumacher, Villeneuve / Schumacher) oh its so boring, so many examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid, rediculous, thick, pathetic, dumb &#8230;.</p>
<p>Bourdais - being penalised is <em>wrong</em>, he was on the racing line and Massa crossed white line!  Another example of the Ferrari Improvement Appreciation.</p>
<p>Hamilton, well too many examples to bother mentioning on this one, not least Massa at Turkey (wasn&#8217;t it) when it was called a brilliant overtaking maneuverer, what is the difference!</p>
<p>Massa, well obviously history (Senna / Prost, Hill / Schumacher, Villeneuve / Schumacher) oh its so boring, so many examples.</p>
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		<title>By: Bem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"it’s clear that Bourdais run wide. He is a long way from the curbs."

I watched the video, and what i see is that Bourdais tried to go so far to the right to give Massa room that he ended up bouncing off the curb. Massa acted as if he didn't see Bourdais at all or expected him to brake and give up the position.

The two cars were entering the turn side by side and Massa should've left enough room for Bourdais, but didn't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it’s clear that Bourdais run wide. He is a long way from the curbs.&#8221;</p>
<p>I watched the video, and what i see is that Bourdais tried to go so far to the right to give Massa room that he ended up bouncing off the curb. Massa acted as if he didn&#8217;t see Bourdais at all or expected him to brake and give up the position.</p>
<p>The two cars were entering the turn side by side and Massa should&#8217;ve left enough room for Bourdais, but didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not give three options in the poll?

1) Bordais was properly penalized;

2) Racing incident; and

3) Massa committed a penality.

Clearly, Massa did not allow the driver with the inside line a car width to make the turn. That's a penality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not give three options in the poll?</p>
<p>1) Bordais was properly penalized;</p>
<p>2) Racing incident; and</p>
<p>3) Massa committed a penality.</p>
<p>Clearly, Massa did not allow the driver with the inside line a car width to make the turn. That&#8217;s a penality.</p>
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		<title>By: Magnus Berg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magnus Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will change my wote. At http://www.formula1.com they have a film sequence that show the incident from different angels and it's clear that Bourdais run wide. He is a long way from the curbs. Look here http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/10/8530.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will change my wote. At <a href="http://www.formula1.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.formula1.com</a> they have a film sequence that show the incident from different angels and it&#8217;s clear that Bourdais run wide. He is a long way from the curbs. Look here <a href="http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/10/8530.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/10/8530.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alianora La Canta</title>
		<link>http://blogf1.co.uk/2008/10/12/sebastien-bourdais-handed-25s-penalty/comment-page-1/#comment-68579</link>
		<dc:creator>Alianora La Canta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And to think that at the start of the season, Bourdais in an STR was seen as a good marketing move. Now I'm wondering conspiracy theories, like did Gerhard Berger and/or Dietrich Mateschitz and/or Bernie Ecclestone have advance notice/strong belief that the unification of CART and IRL would occur this year and contrive to get Bourdais out of the way?

I hate conspiracy theories, but those with power in F1 act in ways that promote so many :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to think that at the start of the season, Bourdais in an STR was seen as a good marketing move. Now I&#8217;m wondering conspiracy theories, like did Gerhard Berger and/or Dietrich Mateschitz and/or Bernie Ecclestone have advance notice/strong belief that the unification of CART and IRL would occur this year and contrive to get Bourdais out of the way?</p>
<p>I hate conspiracy theories, but those with power in F1 act in ways that promote so many <img src='http://blogf1.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As David Hobbs of the SPEED broadcast crew has said several times regarding Bourdais (including after this week's incident)..."If poor old Sebastien Bourdais diden't have bad luck, he'd have no luck at all."

Indeed Seb appears to be getting a bad break here...perhaps Max or some other powerbroker in the FIA hierarchy is trying to do their part in forcing him out of the SRT seat in order to get Buemi, Senna, or some other flashy young hotshoe in there to make the sport more marketable and appealing....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As David Hobbs of the SPEED broadcast crew has said several times regarding Bourdais (including after this week&#8217;s incident)&#8230;&#8221;If poor old Sebastien Bourdais diden&#8217;t have bad luck, he&#8217;d have no luck at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed Seb appears to be getting a bad break here&#8230;perhaps Max or some other powerbroker in the FIA hierarchy is trying to do their part in forcing him out of the SRT seat in order to get Buemi, Senna, or some other flashy young hotshoe in there to make the sport more marketable and appealing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gusto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gusto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the stewards are showing..." In the Land of the blind, the man with one eye is King"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the stewards are showing&#8230;&#8221; In the Land of the blind, the man with one eye is King&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gusto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gusto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without the rules, all games are folly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without the rules, all games are folly.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Gould</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Gould</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we not just get rid of the stewards? Both Hamilton and Massa were pushing and racing. It makes for great racing, great viewing and in my opinion both drivers did exactly what would be expected of any great driver in similar circumstances. In any of the incidents, if the drivers had got away with the manoeuvre they would be hailed as heroes. Hero to Zero, that’s life, but it makes for great TV. F1 needs to take a lesson from Moto GP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we not just get rid of the stewards? Both Hamilton and Massa were pushing and racing. It makes for great racing, great viewing and in my opinion both drivers did exactly what would be expected of any great driver in similar circumstances. In any of the incidents, if the drivers had got away with the manoeuvre they would be hailed as heroes. Hero to Zero, that’s life, but it makes for great TV. F1 needs to take a lesson from Moto GP.</p>
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		<title>By: Gusto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gusto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It`s so sad to think that F1 has entered the World of spin, what ever happens on the track is irrelivent, its what the press report next day, boring race with boring result page 10, `Driver does this, driver does the other, nazi implications to orgy of depravity implicates the implicaters, its never ending bul***it of spin apart from the racing` but I suppose thats the future we are e-mailing to each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It`s so sad to think that F1 has entered the World of spin, what ever happens on the track is irrelivent, its what the press report next day, boring race with boring result page 10, `Driver does this, driver does the other, nazi implications to orgy of depravity implicates the implicaters, its never ending bul***it of spin apart from the racing` but I suppose thats the future we are e-mailing to each other.</p>
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