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		<title>By: BlogF1 2008: Two Breaks And Still Standing &#187; BlogF1</title>
		<link>http://blogf1.co.uk/2008/06/05/one-clocked-bugatti-one-mangled-porsche-a-very-lucky-ferrari/comment-page-1/#comment-69307</link>
		<dc:creator>BlogF1 2008: Two Breaks And Still Standing &#187; BlogF1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One Clocked Bugatti, One Mangled Porsche A Very Lucky Ferrari: The day Anthony Hamilton made the papers after crashing a Porsche Carrera. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pink Peril</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pink Peril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In one of my earlier career incarnations, I was in Investigations for the Insurance company I work for, and spent many any hour poring over photo&#039;s such as these. Aha, now my secret past comes to light !

I&#039;d like a bigger area shot, and more of them to be sure, but to me it certainly looks like the car
has gone in backwards as evidenced by the direction the dirt has flicked onto the car. It has also rotated from where it came to rest, as the yaw marks indicate. *note, now that I have looked at the link that Craig supplied, I see that I was correct ;) *

To the untrained eye it doesn&#039;t look like a lot of damage, but I&#039;d be surprised if he hasn&#039;t managed to misalign the rear of the car. Have to look underneath to be sure, but to me thats not looking like just a broken tailight and cracked bumper.

And you do not - I repeat, do not - do that kind of damage at 60 kph. Hey - who even drives that sort of car at those speeds ! Clearly he has been taking that slight bend in the road way too fast, and has lost the back end.

As regards to the Veyron driver, what a laugh. I would&#039;ve thought that the fine would have been a bit dearer though? Not like the guy couldn&#039;t have afforded it. 
You make a very good point Ollie - why didn&#039;t he just wait to Goodwood to put the car through it&#039;s paces? Just goes to show that dollars can&#039;t buy you sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In one of my earlier career incarnations, I was in Investigations for the Insurance company I work for, and spent many any hour poring over photo&#8217;s such as these. Aha, now my secret past comes to light !</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like a bigger area shot, and more of them to be sure, but to me it certainly looks like the car<br />
has gone in backwards as evidenced by the direction the dirt has flicked onto the car. It has also rotated from where it came to rest, as the yaw marks indicate. *note, now that I have looked at the link that Craig supplied, I see that I was correct <img src='http://blogf1.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  *</p>
<p>To the untrained eye it doesn&#8217;t look like a lot of damage, but I&#8217;d be surprised if he hasn&#8217;t managed to misalign the rear of the car. Have to look underneath to be sure, but to me thats not looking like just a broken tailight and cracked bumper.</p>
<p>And you do not &#8211; I repeat, do not &#8211; do that kind of damage at 60 kph. Hey &#8211; who even drives that sort of car at those speeds ! Clearly he has been taking that slight bend in the road way too fast, and has lost the back end.</p>
<p>As regards to the Veyron driver, what a laugh. I would&#8217;ve thought that the fine would have been a bit dearer though? Not like the guy couldn&#8217;t have afforded it.<br />
You make a very good point Ollie &#8211; why didn&#8217;t he just wait to Goodwood to put the car through it&#8217;s paces? Just goes to show that dollars can&#8217;t buy you sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Craig. I&#039;ve missed you around here, but you&#039;ve made up for it with that photo; it puts a clearer light on everything. :)

So, judging by the tyre marks in the grass, he was heading away from the photographers position (towards the house) and managed to spin through 180, as shown with the far right tyre tracks. The rear of the car must have hit the hedge as it spun and that is where the damage to back of the Porsche happened. Given that there is no kerb on the road, it would have been relatively easily for the car to skid off, but he would had to have been going at least 40-60mph for this to have happened. And even then...? Although I would suggest that the majority of the spin happened on the muddy verge rather than on the tarmac. Stupid by all accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Craig. I&#8217;ve missed you around here, but you&#8217;ve made up for it with that photo; it puts a clearer light on everything. <img src='http://blogf1.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So, judging by the tyre marks in the grass, he was heading away from the photographers position (towards the house) and managed to spin through 180, as shown with the far right tyre tracks. The rear of the car must have hit the hedge as it spun and that is where the damage to back of the Porsche happened. Given that there is no kerb on the road, it would have been relatively easily for the car to skid off, but he would had to have been going at least 40-60mph for this to have happened. And even then&#8230;? Although I would suggest that the majority of the spin happened on the muddy verge rather than on the tarmac. Stupid by all accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it strange he was in a Porsche as well - and given this picture he was travelling a lot faster then 30mph!!

http://wot.motortrend.com/6249850/miscellaneous/happy-fathers-day-hamiltons-dad-wrecks-carrera-gt/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it strange he was in a Porsche as well &#8211; and given this picture he was travelling a lot faster then 30mph!!</p>
<p><a href="http://wot.motortrend.com/6249850/miscellaneous/happy-fathers-day-hamiltons-dad-wrecks-carrera-gt/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://wot.motortrend.com/6249850/miscellaneous/happy-fathers-day-hamiltons-dad-wrecks-carrera-gt/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Oliver White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 20:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d also not be stupid enough to speed outside my own house, in front my own neighbours who could easily identify me. Although I&#039;m sure Hamilton Sr and Jr are easily identifiable these days. And the Carrera GT is a bit of a giveaway as well, if not a slap in the face to Mercedes.

I read somewhere that Lewis Hamilton was loaned a Porsche of some description (sorry, their model numbering system is beyond my logic) to drive after the Monaco Grand Prix. I know that Porsche &lt;em&gt;had&lt;/em&gt; a relationship with McLaren, but I&#039;m not so sure Mercedes would be entirely happy with all the media attention the Hamilton&#039;s are getting with their road cars at the moment.

&lt;strong&gt;Edit: &lt;/strong&gt;Just had a thought: Maybe McLaren don&#039;t trust either Hamilton with an SLR just yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also not be stupid enough to speed outside my own house, in front my own neighbours who could easily identify me. Although I&#8217;m sure Hamilton Sr and Jr are easily identifiable these days. And the Carrera GT is a bit of a giveaway as well, if not a slap in the face to Mercedes.</p>
<p>I read somewhere that Lewis Hamilton was loaned a Porsche of some description (sorry, their model numbering system is beyond my logic) to drive after the Monaco Grand Prix. I know that Porsche <em>had</em> a relationship with McLaren, but I&#8217;m not so sure Mercedes would be entirely happy with all the media attention the Hamilton&#8217;s are getting with their road cars at the moment.</p>
<p><strong>Edit: </strong>Just had a thought: Maybe McLaren don&#8217;t trust either Hamilton with an SLR just yet?</p>
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		<title>By: sidepodcast</title>
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		<dc:creator>sidepodcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anthony Hamilton was just 200 metres from his home in Tewin&quot;

a couple of things i&#039;ve read suggested he&#039;d just left his home when this happened...  and at speed too.

pretty hard to lose control of a car that close to ones house i&#039;d say.  of all the roads i drive, the one outside my window is the one i know most intimately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anthony Hamilton was just 200 metres from his home in Tewin&#8221;</p>
<p>a couple of things i&#8217;ve read suggested he&#8217;d just left his home when this happened&#8230;  and at speed too.</p>
<p>pretty hard to lose control of a car that close to ones house i&#8217;d say.  of all the roads i drive, the one outside my window is the one i know most intimately.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the supercar was racing a Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano and both cars reached excessive speeds of around 130mph&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I guess the Veyron was toying with the Ferrari since it could have quite easily left it for dust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the supercar was racing a Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano and both cars reached excessive speeds of around 130mph</p></blockquote>
<p>I guess the Veyron was toying with the Ferrari since it could have quite easily left it for dust.</p>
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		<title>By: underdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>underdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes me sick that high-end luxury car driver with no sense of responsibility putting their and other’s people life at risk. I&#039;ve seen it over here with fatal consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes me sick that high-end luxury car driver with no sense of responsibility putting their and other’s people life at risk. I&#8217;ve seen it over here with fatal consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I take that back. From the article:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Anthony Hamilton was just 200 metres from his home in Tewin, Hertfordshire, when he &lt;strong&gt;lost control&lt;/strong&gt; of the £330,000 vehicle and ploughed across a grass verge, leaving &lt;strong&gt;deep tire tracks&lt;/strong&gt;, before crashing through a hedge.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Emphasis mine to highlight my possible error in previous comment.

@Telegraph: For the love of all the dictionaries in the all the lands, when in England, &quot;tire&quot; means to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;q=define%3A+tire&amp;meta=&quot; title=&quot;External Link: Google Definition Search of &#039;Tire&#039;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;feel tired/drowsy/sleepy&lt;/a&gt;. The round black things found on each corner of a Porsche Carrera are called &lt;strong&gt;tyres&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I take that back. From the article:</p>
<blockquote><p>Anthony Hamilton was just 200 metres from his home in Tewin, Hertfordshire, when he <strong>lost control</strong> of the £330,000 vehicle and ploughed across a grass verge, leaving <strong>deep tire tracks</strong>, before crashing through a hedge.</p></blockquote>
<p>Emphasis mine to highlight my possible error in previous comment.</p>
<p>@Telegraph: For the love of all the dictionaries in the all the lands, when in England, &#8220;tire&#8221; means to <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&#038;q=define%3A+tire&#038;meta=" title="External Link: Google Definition Search of 'Tire'" rel="nofollow">feel tired/drowsy/sleepy</a>. The round black things found on each corner of a Porsche Carrera are called <strong>tyres</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The details of the accident are vague, but it is quite easy to drive a car into a hedge (and when I say easy, I mean easy for someone who doesn&#039;t know what they&#039;re doing). The damage to the back is a bit odd though. Having said that, my girlfriend was slowly reversing out of a bay late last year and a branch from a hedge got caught on the front bumper and ripped it right off, damaging the mounting bracket things and putting a small split in it. She was doing no more than 10mph. As no speed has been mentioned yet (that I can find) I&#039;m a little hesitant to accuse Anthony Hamilton of speeding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The details of the accident are vague, but it is quite easy to drive a car into a hedge (and when I say easy, I mean easy for someone who doesn&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re doing). The damage to the back is a bit odd though. Having said that, my girlfriend was slowly reversing out of a bay late last year and a branch from a hedge got caught on the front bumper and ripped it right off, damaging the mounting bracket things and putting a small split in it. She was doing no more than 10mph. As no speed has been mentioned yet (that I can find) I&#8217;m a little hesitant to accuse Anthony Hamilton of speeding.</p>
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		<title>By: sidepodcast</title>
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		<dc:creator>sidepodcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looking at the photo, i&#039;d say anthony was doing far more than 30mph.

the car&#039;s pointing into a field... where&#039;s the road?  if he went in backwards (as the damaged light would suggest), how&#039;d he manage a 180 using only the inertia of a 30mph accident?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looking at the photo, i&#8217;d say anthony was doing far more than 30mph.</p>
<p>the car&#8217;s pointing into a field&#8230; where&#8217;s the road?  if he went in backwards (as the damaged light would suggest), how&#8217;d he manage a 180 using only the inertia of a 30mph accident?</p>
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