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	<title>Comments on: Massa Takes Second Successive Turkey Win</title>
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		<title>By: Clive</title>
		<link>http://blogf1.co.uk/2007/08/26/massa-takes-second-successive-turkey-win/comment-page-1/#comment-26287</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I know, Ollie, but we can still talk Kimi here, can&#039;t we?  ;)

Personally, I like Kimi for exactly the same reason that you guys don&#039;t.  Maybe I&#039;ve had enough of the smiling, eloquent and smarmy type such as Mickey the Shoe, but I like a man who keeps his thoughts to himself.

Consider the fuss going on over at &lt;em&gt;F1 Fanatic&lt;/em&gt; at the moment all because Alonso&#039;s a whiner.  Surely Kimi&#039;s approach to having a team mate that persists in beating him half of the time is much better than making excuses to the press.  I have been impressed with Kimi&#039;s handling of the situation - he surely is the Iceman and we will probably never know what really goes on in that Finnish brain of his.

What the heck, there&#039;s probably a post in this so I&#039;ll shut up and go write it...  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I know, Ollie, but we can still talk Kimi here, can&#8217;t we?  <img src='http://blogf1.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Personally, I like Kimi for exactly the same reason that you guys don&#8217;t.  Maybe I&#8217;ve had enough of the smiling, eloquent and smarmy type such as Mickey the Shoe, but I like a man who keeps his thoughts to himself.</p>
<p>Consider the fuss going on over at <em>F1 Fanatic</em> at the moment all because Alonso&#8217;s a whiner.  Surely Kimi&#8217;s approach to having a team mate that persists in beating him half of the time is much better than making excuses to the press.  I have been impressed with Kimi&#8217;s handling of the situation &#8211; he surely is the Iceman and we will probably never know what really goes on in that Finnish brain of his.</p>
<p>What the heck, there&#8217;s probably a post in this so I&#8217;ll shut up and go write it&#8230;  <img src='http://blogf1.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Oliver White</title>
		<link>http://blogf1.co.uk/2007/08/26/massa-takes-second-successive-turkey-win/comment-page-1/#comment-26145</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a great debate going on at Keith&#039;s F1Fanatic at the moment about Fernando Alonso.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/08/27/debate-fernando-alonso/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Keith&#039;s post about Fernando Alonso&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a great debate going on at Keith&#8217;s F1Fanatic at the moment about Fernando Alonso.<br />
<a href="http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/08/27/debate-fernando-alonso/" rel="nofollow">Keith&#8217;s post about Fernando Alonso</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d agree Ollie, Kimi may be a decent driver but personally I see his supposed lack of &quot;warmth&quot; as a drawback which will mean that he will never be a favourite of mine no matter what.

As for Fernando, I seem to recall that in the past couple of years he made trips to the Renault factory and gave great speeches to motivate or thank the workers there - how the times have changed now he is working out of McLaren&#039;s HQ!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d agree Ollie, Kimi may be a decent driver but personally I see his supposed lack of &#8220;warmth&#8221; as a drawback which will mean that he will never be a favourite of mine no matter what.</p>
<p>As for Fernando, I seem to recall that in the past couple of years he made trips to the Renault factory and gave great speeches to motivate or thank the workers there &#8211; how the times have changed now he is working out of McLaren&#8217;s HQ!</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver White</title>
		<link>http://blogf1.co.uk/2007/08/26/massa-takes-second-successive-turkey-win/comment-page-1/#comment-26108</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so sure Kimi is the most popular driver. The simple reason is that he doesn&#039;t warm himself to the sport&#039;s fans. But I agree with the statement that most still see Kimi as the faster of the two Ferrari drivers.

I see &#039;speed&#039; as encompassing many attributes. Mika Hakkinen was a much faster driver than Michael Schumacher. But Schumacher had the ability to form a strong unit around him, motivate the right people and get a decent motor built that &lt;em&gt;he&lt;/em&gt; could race.

Kimi is a much faster driver than Massa in terms of raw speed - I&#039;m convinced of that. But Massa has the charisma, the charm and a way of getting people to side with him when the opportunities are 50/50 split between them. Which driver does the car suit more? I&#039;m willing to bet Massa, because he was there for an extra couple of years, gave and gained some loyalty and made a few friends. That makes him have an edge over Raikkonen in terms of intra-team politics. It&#039;s going to be interesting what happens over the next few races at Ferrari.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure Kimi is the most popular driver. The simple reason is that he doesn&#8217;t warm himself to the sport&#8217;s fans. But I agree with the statement that most still see Kimi as the faster of the two Ferrari drivers.</p>
<p>I see &#8217;speed&#8217; as encompassing many attributes. Mika Hakkinen was a much faster driver than Michael Schumacher. But Schumacher had the ability to form a strong unit around him, motivate the right people and get a decent motor built that <em>he</em> could race.</p>
<p>Kimi is a much faster driver than Massa in terms of raw speed &#8211; I&#8217;m convinced of that. But Massa has the charisma, the charm and a way of getting people to side with him when the opportunities are 50/50 split between them. Which driver does the car suit more? I&#8217;m willing to bet Massa, because he was there for an extra couple of years, gave and gained some loyalty and made a few friends. That makes him have an edge over Raikkonen in terms of intra-team politics. It&#8217;s going to be interesting what happens over the next few races at Ferrari.</p>
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		<title>By: Clive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>History is said to repeat itself occasionally...

Now that Michael Schumacher has retired, I think Kimi must be the most popular driver in F1.  It&#039;s hard not to feel for the guy when you&#039;ve seen him robbed of so many wins by bad luck or circumstances and, despite his apparent inability to overshadow Massa, we still tend to think that he&#039;s the fastest driver out there.  I hate to say it but he really is shaping up to be a second Stirling Moss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History is said to repeat itself occasionally&#8230;</p>
<p>Now that Michael Schumacher has retired, I think Kimi must be the most popular driver in F1.  It&#8217;s hard not to feel for the guy when you&#8217;ve seen him robbed of so many wins by bad luck or circumstances and, despite his apparent inability to overshadow Massa, we still tend to think that he&#8217;s the fastest driver out there.  I hate to say it but he really is shaping up to be a second Stirling Moss.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver White</title>
		<link>http://blogf1.co.uk/2007/08/26/massa-takes-second-successive-turkey-win/comment-page-1/#comment-26066</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I didn&#039;t consciously think of that when writing the line, I am starting to wonder if Kimi will ever manage to cobble together a successful title campaign. Kimi: A modern-day Stirling Moss. Perhaps it isn&#039;t that far-fetched...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I didn&#8217;t consciously think of that when writing the line, I am starting to wonder if Kimi will ever manage to cobble together a successful title campaign. Kimi: A modern-day Stirling Moss. Perhaps it isn&#8217;t that far-fetched&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Alianora La Canta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alianora La Canta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, you mean Kimi might become a 21st-century Stirling Moss?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you mean Kimi might become a 21st-century Stirling Moss?</p>
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		<title>By: Clive</title>
		<link>http://blogf1.co.uk/2007/08/26/massa-takes-second-successive-turkey-win/comment-page-1/#comment-25901</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I knew what you meant, Ollie.  It was just that I saw the double meaning and wondered whether you might subconsciously have made a prophecy there.  Imagine if Kimi were &lt;em&gt;never&lt;/em&gt; to win the championship...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I knew what you meant, Ollie.  It was just that I saw the double meaning and wondered whether you might subconsciously have made a prophecy there.  Imagine if Kimi were <em>never</em> to win the championship&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver White</title>
		<link>http://blogf1.co.uk/2007/08/26/massa-takes-second-successive-turkey-win/comment-page-1/#comment-25859</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe, he&#039;s probably the best driver out there at almost winning. ;) Of course, I meant that Raikkonen has come close to winning the big trophy before, therefore has gained a fair amount of experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe, he&#8217;s probably the best driver out there at almost winning. <img src='http://blogf1.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Of course, I meant that Raikkonen has come close to winning the big trophy before, therefore has gained a fair amount of experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Clive</title>
		<link>http://blogf1.co.uk/2007/08/26/massa-takes-second-successive-turkey-win/comment-page-1/#comment-25857</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an ominous double meaning in your statement that Kimi &quot;has more experience, having almost won a couple of titles&quot;.  Yes, he has all that experience so he should be really good at nearly winning titles by now...  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an ominous double meaning in your statement that Kimi &#8220;has more experience, having almost won a couple of titles&#8221;.  Yes, he has all that experience so he should be really good at nearly winning titles by now&#8230;  <img src='http://blogf1.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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